Re-blogged from Understanding Uncertainty http://understandinguncertainty.org/probability-paradox

I’ve been mulling over this puzzle on David’s blog. Thought perhaps that microscopic few of you readers who are here because of discussions elsewhere about simultaneity and the ‘randomness’ concept might enjoy it too:

*A probability paradox?*

*Submitted by david on Mon, 10/31/2011 – 08:49*

*I recently tweeted a link to this problem drawn on a blackboard, which got a lot of retweets.*

Multiple Choice: If you choose an answer to this question at random, what is the chance you will be correct? A) 25% B) 50% C) 60% D) 25%

*This is a fun question whose paradoxical, self-referential nature quickly reveals itself – A) seems to be fine until one realizes the D) option is also 25%.*

*A quick search reveals hundreds of discussion contributions of this problem, for example here and here and from a year ago. People often appear very confident that their answer is the only possible solution.*

*I am no logician and so unqualified to place this within the grand structures of mathematical paradoxes. I have not waded through all the discussions and so there may be something I have missed, but in among all the arguments there seem to be four conclusions that could be considered as ‘correct’. These are my personal comments:*

**1) There can be no solution, since the ambiguity of ‘correct’ makes the question ill-posed.
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*It’s true the question is ambiguous, but this still seems a bit of a cop-out.*

**2) There is no solution. **

*This seems to take this interpretation of the question.*

*Which answer (or set of answers) of “p%”, is such that the statement ‘the probability of picking such an answer is p%’ is true? *

*Then this appears to be a well-posed question, but there is no solution.*

**3) 0%.**

*Consider a different interpretation of the question.*

*Is there a p%, such that the statement ‘the probability of picking an answer “p%” is p%’ is true?
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*Then this appears a well-posed question and has the solution p = 0, even though this is not one of the answers. Of course if answer C) were changed to “0%” (as it is in this 2007 version of the question ), then this would also have no solution.*

**4) We can produce any answer we want by changing the probability distribution for the choice.**

*Why should ‘random’ mean an equally likely chance of picking the 4 answers? If we, say, assume the probabilities of choosing (A) (B) (C) (D) to be (10%, 20%, 60%, 10%) then the answer to either formulation (2) and (3) is now “60%”. But if we make the distribution (12.5%, 15%, 60%, 12.5%) then we seem to back to square one again, since there is now both a 25% chance of picking “25%”, and a 60% chance of picking “60%”.*

*I like conclusion 3) best, ie 0%.*

*Maybe the main lesson is: ambiguity and paradox are often the basis for a good joke.*

It won’t lead you where you’re trying to go, but it might offer a hint as to whether you can get there from here.

But you might also want to have a look at **BRAIN TIME ***[6.24.09]*

By David M. Eagleman **http://tinyurl.com/m6zkx4. **Likely that won’t help, either, but it’s bound to introduce some new doubts if you needed any.

Old Jules

….my head hurts…..

Jools: Hope it’s better by now. Jules

So Schroedingers cat walks into a bar….

…but he really doesn’t.

arifmvega: Or does, but isn’t noticed. Gracias, Jules

The right answer is turn and walk away.

Ed: One does what one must, I reckons. I gets my right answers after I discover all the others are wrong, then punt the only thing left. Thankee. J

I’m too pooped to ponder this for all this happy season’s rush.

LCTC!: No point in it I reckons. Gracias, Jules