Hi readers. Thanks for coming by for a read.
The Internet’s buzzing with opinions about the original Ferguson, MO, incident, and the rioting afterward. Everyone feels qualified at this stage to have an opinion.
I don’t have an opinion, but here it is.
I don’t like cops. I think they are a gang of bullying thugs attracted to the job because of personality deficiencies. I believe they see themselves as a ‘brotherhood [gang] and use phrases such as ‘authority figure’ to explain to themselves why nobody likes them. But deep down they know why. They demonstrate the truth of this most profoundly when one of them gets killed on the job.
However, under the current structure of this society it’s a job that satisfies a necessary need in society, probably marginally keeping things from going completely off the rails by other gangs of thugs taking over and doing even worse.
Such as the gang of thugs who are setting fire to homes and businesses in response to Ferguson, opportunistically running off with stolen booze, television sets, anything they can take and run. Here’s what a couple of black men have to say about all that:
For beginners, the store camera just before he was killed proved to my satisfaction the dead youngster was a bullying thug and a thief. If he’d run into you or run into me anywhere adversarial such as a dark alley he’d happily make us sorry some cop hadn’t offed him sometime earlier. In a year or two when he went to prison [as he was certainly going to do] he’d have been big enough to be on the happy end of the raping of his cell mate.
So the issue isn’t whether the world is any better off or worse off with him dead. I’m personally satisfied there are people all over the place he didn’t live to occupy who are being spared a lot of pain and heartache as a consequence of his demise.
So the issue is really not him getting killed. Nobody would be rioting if he’d been one of the far more numerous black men being killed by other black men. Nobody is lamenting those, partly because a huge percentage of them might be suspected without prejudice to have ‘needed killing’ in the same sense this one did. Gangsters, street hoods, living and behaving in a way to invite getting shot in a war zone.
So the real issue is cops. Police officers coldly and deliberately killing blacks, not all of them as needful of being killed as this one. And getting by with it.
My opinion is that whenever a black kills a black it’s an equal offense to a black killing a cop, a cop killing a black, anyone else killing a cop or black. It needs to stop. Cops need to be thrown under the bus whenever they kill anyone and it’s not clearly self-defense [against an armed suspect]. Same as a black gets thrown under the bus the instant a cop dies.
And blacks need to belly up to the bar and take some responsibility for the way their kids are behaving out there on the streets. Same as white people need to. One of the ways they need to do that is to make certain the black folks getting shot are the right ones to eradicate all this street shooting. Whether they are cops or gangsters.
But what the hell do I know.
Old Jules
I don;t like the idea of execution without trial but I know you like to stir things up judging by your other posts!
Search on Chicago murders for September 2014 or 2014 and see 45.
That is a bit higher than the couple other months I looked at and each has a link to details, which I didn’t follow up in yet but I would hate to be a cop in that place and I was shaken down there a couple of times, so the cops are not all good. Bad job! Total gangland; worse than Capone’s days. Here’s September data. Forgive layout
SEPTEMBER 2014 CHICAGO MURDERS (Note 3 year old)
Showing 45 homicides in September 2014
Name, age +
story
Date, time +
case number
Block +
Community area
Cause +
Locale
Camerion Blair, 16
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> Follow-up coverage
9/30/14
5:45 p.m.
HX449928
2600 E. 73rd St.
South Shore
Gunshot
Street
Shandel Adams, 25
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9/30/14
4:17 a.m.
HX448978
600 N. Ridgeway Ave.
Humboldt Park
Gunshot
Street
Stanley Macon Jr., 25
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9/29/14
11:20 p.m.
HX448843
900 S. Lawndale Ave.
North Lawndale
Gunshot
Alley
Miguel Hernandez, 24
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> Follow-up coverage
9/28/14
11:42 p.m.
HX447404
8500 S. Escanaba Ave.
South Chicago
Gunshot
Street
Demureya Macon, 13
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9/28/14
8:36 p.m.
HX447276
2600 W. 26th St.
South Lawndale
Gunshot
Street
Victoria Kotlinski, 7
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> Follow-up coverage
9/28/14
8:53 a.m.
HX446571
3400 N. Odell Ave.
Dunning
Stabbing
Residence
Ania Kosinska, 34
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> Follow-up coverage
9/28/14
8:53 a.m.
HX446571
3400 N. Odell Ave.
Dunning
Stabbing
Residence
Leroyce Noel, 20
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> Follow-up coverage
9/27/14
4:19 p.m.
HX445686
6500 S. Minerva Ave.
Woodlawn
Stabbing
Apartment
Malachi Baldwin, 27
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9/26/14
10:41 p.m.
HX444807
5700 S. Aberdeen St.
Englewood
Gunshot
Street
Deandre Ellis, 22
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9/26/14
3 p.m.
HX444151
1900 W. 59th St.
West Englewood
Gunshot
Barber shop/beauty salon
Jose Rios, 23
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9/26/14
6:59 a.m.
HX445136
4500 S. Hermitage Ave.
New City
Gunshot
Street
Arthur Hearn, 88
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> Follow-up coverage
9/25/14
HX442273
8500 S. Cottage Grove Ave.
Chatham
Assault
Street
Mondele Heard, 20
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9/22/14
9:35 p.m.
HX439220
7800 S. Homan Ave.
Ashburn
Gunshot
Street
Richard Johnson, 34
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9/21/14
HX436980
7700 S. Stewart Ave.
Greater Grand Crossing
Gunshot
Vehicle
Davontae Harrison, 21
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9/20/14
7:37 p.m.
HX436586
3900 W. Ferdinand St.
Humboldt Park
Gunshot
Street
Markise Darling, 19
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9/20/14
6:26 p.m.
HX434732
1600 W. 61st St.
West Englewood
Gunshot
Porch/hallway
Cortez Rivers, 16
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> Follow-up coverage
9/20/14
4:55 a.m.
HX435683
4000 W. Jackson Blvd.
West Garfield Park
Gunshot
Street
Dimitre Beck, 21
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9/19/14
7300 S. Halsted St.
Englewood
Stabbing
Leon Austin, 21
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9/19/14
9:07 p.m.
HX435299
7700 S. Emerald Ave.
Auburn Gresham
Stabbing
Street
Devonshay Lofton, 16
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> Follow-up coverage
9/18/14
9:52 p.m.
HX433928
1300 N. Cleveland Ave.
Near North Side
Gunshot
Residential Yard
Kamaal Burton, 18
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9/18/14
9:41 p.m.
HX433956
13300 S. Corliss Ave.
Riverdale
Gunshot
CHA parking lot
Justin Marcado, 19
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9/17/14
11:42 p.m.
HX432652
5000 W. Wrightwood Ave.
Belmont Cragin
Gunshot
Street
Kawantis Montgomery, 18
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9/17/14
5:09 p.m.
HX432052
1000 W. 61st St.
Englewood
Gunshot
Vehicle
Christopher McGhee, 22
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9/15/14
12:06 p.m.
HX429069
4500 N. Magnolia Ave.
Uptown
Gunshot
Street
Tamica Riley, 37
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> Follow-up coverage
9/14/14
5:20 p.m.
HX428315
800 S. California Ave.
East Garfield Park
Assault
Porch/hallway
Charles Labon, 28
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> Follow-up coverage
9/14/14
3:50 p.m.
HX428078
4100 W. 16th St.
North Lawndale
Gunshot
Street
Michael Bloodson, 17
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9/13/14
3:44 p.m.
HX426957
3900 S. Prairie Ave.
Douglas
Gunshot
Porch/hallway
Glenford Johnson, 19
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9/11/14
12:49 p.m.
HX424231
1600 W. Juneway Terrace
Rogers Park
Gunshot
Porch/hallway
Michael Wright, 21
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9/10/14
11:24 a.m.
HX422932
9300 S. Greenwood Ave.
Burnside
Gunshot
Street
Gabriel Meneses, 31
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> Follow-up coverage
9/10/14
1:26 a.m.
HX422647
5100 W. Waveland Ave.
Portage Park
Gunshot
Street
Terry Cook, 32
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9/8/14
9:56 p.m.
HX420605
5400 S. Laflin St.
New City
Gunshot
Street
Malcolm Warnsby, 54
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9/8/14
6:34 a.m.
HX419954
1100 N. Harding Ave.
Humboldt Park
Gunshot
Street
Juan Carlos Villalobos Avila, 36
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9/7/14
4500 N. Kedzie Ave.
Albany Park
Gunshot
Martell Robinson, 20
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9/6/14
HX417607
9700 S. Forest Ave.
Roseland
Gunshot
Alley
Edward Davis, 23
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9/6/14
10:35 p.m.
HX418468
4500 S. Evans Ave.
Grand Boulevard
Gunshot
Street
Shaquille Holmes, 19
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9/6/14
9:51 p.m.
HX418402
7200 S. Damen Ave.
West Englewood
Gunshot
Street
Nabil Batroukh, 64
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9/6/14
4:30 a.m.
HX417437
1500 S. Lawndale Ave.
North Lawndale
Gunshot
Street
Christopher Guadarrama, 19
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9/6/14
4:11 a.m.
HX417473
1300 W. Chicago Ave.
West Town
Gunshot
Street
Decari Spivey, 21
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9/5/14
1600 W. Cortland St.
Logan Square
Gunshot
Giovanni Galindo, 24
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> Follow-up coverage
9/5/14
5:11 p.m.
HX416825
6200 S. Kilpatrick Ave.
Clearing
Gunshot
Basement
Miran Cerimagic, 20
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> Follow-up coverage
9/5/14
HX417291
5800 N. Mobile Ave.
Norwood Park
Stabbing
Residence
Desmond Gunawardana, 35
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> Follow-up coverage
9/5/14
HX417291
5800 N. Mobile Ave.
Norwood Park
Stabbing
Residence
Raphael Watts, 53
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> Follow-up coverage
9/4/14
HX415817
2600 W. North Ave.
West Town
Trauma
Apartment
Nigell Vazquez, 22
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> Follow-up coverage
9/4/14
9:29 p.m.
HX415731
8600 S. Ingleside Ave.
Chatham
Gunshot
Porch/hallway
Oscar Rodriguez, 22
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9/2/14
3:15 p.m.
HX410692
4300 W. 25th Pl.
South Lawndale
Gunshot
Street
yep
Thankfully, police officers in the U.K. are unarmed – apart from the specialist few. I’m glad. My eldest son is a police officer in a pretty rough area and with government cuts, there are now only half the number of officers than there were 5 years ago. Many are attending incidents alone. One or two have been killed. If that were my son therefore, perhaps I would think differently.
Christine
Hi Garybule01: I doubt disarming police in the US would work in favor of anything much. And given the criminal justice system corruption and record of boxing up more lawbreakers than any place in the world, killing more than most anyone, as well, I doubt it would prove a boon to the growth industry. The criminal justice system is the only place anyone can make any serious money unless he’s already rich from oil, bankering, or outsourcing US jobs. Gracias, J
Here in Maine anyone in a standoff that goes past shift change is a target. The AG’s desk is piled high with deadly force files. Who ever woulda thunk it? I’m pretty sure none of the dead citizens were black but I could be wrong.
Good seeing you elroyjones. I suppose I have to admit I’d have thunk it. My personal experience with cops hasn’t left me with any reason not to expect it would come to pass. Gracias, J