Tough call, this Ferguson thing

Hi readers.  Thanks for coming by for a read.

The Internet’s buzzing with opinions about the original Ferguson, MO, incident, and the rioting afterward.  Everyone feels qualified at this stage to have an opinion.

I don’t have an opinion, but here it is.

I don’t like cops.  I think they are a gang of bullying thugs attracted to the job because of personality deficiencies.  I believe they see themselves as a ‘brotherhood [gang] and use phrases such as ‘authority figure’ to explain to themselves why nobody likes them.  But deep down they know why.  They demonstrate the truth of this most profoundly when one of them gets killed on the job.

However, under the current structure of this society it’s a job that satisfies a necessary need in society, probably marginally keeping things from going completely off the rails by other gangs of thugs taking over and doing even worse.

Such as the gang of thugs who are setting fire to homes and businesses in response to Ferguson, opportunistically running off with stolen booze, television sets, anything they can take and run.  Here’s what a couple of black men have to say about all that:

For beginners, the store camera just before he was killed proved to my satisfaction the dead youngster was a bullying thug and a thief.  If he’d run into you or run into me anywhere adversarial such as a dark alley he’d happily make us sorry some cop hadn’t offed him sometime earlier.  In a year or two when he went to prison [as he was certainly going to do] he’d have been big enough to be on the happy end of the raping of his cell mate.

So the issue isn’t whether the world is any better off or worse off with him dead.  I’m personally satisfied there are people all over the place he didn’t live to occupy who are being spared a lot of pain and heartache as a consequence of his demise.

So the issue is really not him getting killed.  Nobody would be rioting if he’d been one of the far more numerous black men being killed by other black men.  Nobody is lamenting those, partly because a huge percentage of them might be suspected without prejudice to have ‘needed killing’ in the same sense this one did.  Gangsters, street hoods, living and behaving in a way to invite getting shot in a war zone.

So the real issue is cops.  Police officers coldly and deliberately killing blacks, not all of them as needful of being killed as this one.  And getting by with it.

My opinion is that whenever a black kills a black it’s an equal offense to a black killing a cop, a cop killing a black, anyone else killing a cop or black.  It needs to stop.  Cops need to be thrown under the bus whenever they kill anyone and it’s not clearly self-defense [against an armed suspect].  Same as a black gets thrown under the bus the instant a cop dies.

And blacks need to belly up to the bar and take some responsibility for the way their kids are behaving out there on the streets.  Same as white people need to.  One of the ways they need to do that is to make certain the black folks getting shot are the right ones to eradicate all this street shooting.  Whether they are cops or gangsters.

But what the hell do I know.

Old Jules

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7 responses to “Tough call, this Ferguson thing

  1. I don;t like the idea of execution without trial but I know you like to stir things up judging by your other posts!

  2. Search on Chicago murders for September 2014 or 2014 and see 45.
    That is a bit higher than the couple other months I looked at and each has a link to details, which I didn’t follow up in yet but I would hate to be a cop in that place and I was shaken down there a couple of times, so the cops are not all good. Bad job! Total gangland; worse than Capone’s days. Here’s September data. Forgive layout

    SEPTEMBER 2014 CHICAGO MURDERS (Note 3 year old)

    Showing 45 homicides in September 2014

    Name, age +
    story
    Date, time +
    case number
    Block +
    Community area
    Cause +
    Locale

    Camerion Blair, 16
    > Read more
    > Follow-up coverage
    9/30/14
    5:45 p.m.
    HX449928
    2600 E. 73rd St.
    South Shore
    Gunshot
    Street
    Shandel Adams, 25
    > Read more
    9/30/14
    4:17 a.m.
    HX448978
    600 N. Ridgeway Ave.
    Humboldt Park
    Gunshot
    Street
    Stanley Macon Jr., 25
    > Read more
    9/29/14
    11:20 p.m.
    HX448843
    900 S. Lawndale Ave.
    North Lawndale
    Gunshot
    Alley
    Miguel Hernandez, 24
    > Read more
    > Follow-up coverage
    9/28/14
    11:42 p.m.
    HX447404
    8500 S. Escanaba Ave.
    South Chicago
    Gunshot
    Street
    Demureya Macon, 13
    > Read more
    9/28/14
    8:36 p.m.
    HX447276
    2600 W. 26th St.
    South Lawndale
    Gunshot
    Street
    Victoria Kotlinski, 7
    > Read more
    > Follow-up coverage
    9/28/14
    8:53 a.m.
    HX446571
    3400 N. Odell Ave.
    Dunning
    Stabbing
    Residence
    Ania Kosinska, 34
    > Read more
    > Follow-up coverage
    9/28/14
    8:53 a.m.
    HX446571
    3400 N. Odell Ave.
    Dunning
    Stabbing
    Residence
    Leroyce Noel, 20
    > Read more
    > Follow-up coverage
    9/27/14
    4:19 p.m.
    HX445686
    6500 S. Minerva Ave.
    Woodlawn
    Stabbing
    Apartment
    Malachi Baldwin, 27
    > Read more
    9/26/14
    10:41 p.m.
    HX444807
    5700 S. Aberdeen St.
    Englewood
    Gunshot
    Street
    Deandre Ellis, 22
    > Read more
    9/26/14
    3 p.m.
    HX444151
    1900 W. 59th St.
    West Englewood
    Gunshot
    Barber shop/beauty salon
    Jose Rios, 23
    > Read more
    9/26/14
    6:59 a.m.
    HX445136
    4500 S. Hermitage Ave.
    New City
    Gunshot
    Street
    Arthur Hearn, 88
    > Read more
    > Follow-up coverage
    9/25/14
    HX442273
    8500 S. Cottage Grove Ave.
    Chatham
    Assault
    Street
    Mondele Heard, 20
    > Read more
    9/22/14
    9:35 p.m.
    HX439220
    7800 S. Homan Ave.
    Ashburn
    Gunshot
    Street
    Richard Johnson, 34
    > Read more
    9/21/14
    HX436980
    7700 S. Stewart Ave.
    Greater Grand Crossing
    Gunshot
    Vehicle
    Davontae Harrison, 21
    > Read more
    9/20/14
    7:37 p.m.
    HX436586
    3900 W. Ferdinand St.
    Humboldt Park
    Gunshot
    Street
    Markise Darling, 19
    > Read more
    9/20/14
    6:26 p.m.
    HX434732
    1600 W. 61st St.
    West Englewood
    Gunshot
    Porch/hallway
    Cortez Rivers, 16
    > Read more
    > Follow-up coverage
    9/20/14
    4:55 a.m.
    HX435683
    4000 W. Jackson Blvd.
    West Garfield Park
    Gunshot
    Street
    Dimitre Beck, 21
    > Read more
    9/19/14
    7300 S. Halsted St.
    Englewood
    Stabbing
    Leon Austin, 21
    > Read more
    9/19/14
    9:07 p.m.
    HX435299
    7700 S. Emerald Ave.
    Auburn Gresham
    Stabbing
    Street
    Devonshay Lofton, 16
    > Read more
    > Follow-up coverage
    9/18/14
    9:52 p.m.
    HX433928
    1300 N. Cleveland Ave.
    Near North Side
    Gunshot
    Residential Yard
    Kamaal Burton, 18
    > Read more
    9/18/14
    9:41 p.m.
    HX433956
    13300 S. Corliss Ave.
    Riverdale
    Gunshot
    CHA parking lot
    Justin Marcado, 19
    > Read more
    9/17/14
    11:42 p.m.
    HX432652
    5000 W. Wrightwood Ave.
    Belmont Cragin
    Gunshot
    Street
    Kawantis Montgomery, 18
    > Read more
    9/17/14
    5:09 p.m.
    HX432052
    1000 W. 61st St.
    Englewood
    Gunshot
    Vehicle
    Christopher McGhee, 22
    > Read more
    9/15/14
    12:06 p.m.
    HX429069
    4500 N. Magnolia Ave.
    Uptown
    Gunshot
    Street
    Tamica Riley, 37
    > Read more
    > Follow-up coverage
    9/14/14
    5:20 p.m.
    HX428315
    800 S. California Ave.
    East Garfield Park
    Assault
    Porch/hallway
    Charles Labon, 28
    > Read more
    > Follow-up coverage
    9/14/14
    3:50 p.m.
    HX428078
    4100 W. 16th St.
    North Lawndale
    Gunshot
    Street
    Michael Bloodson, 17
    > Read more
    9/13/14
    3:44 p.m.
    HX426957
    3900 S. Prairie Ave.
    Douglas
    Gunshot
    Porch/hallway
    Glenford Johnson, 19
    > Read more
    9/11/14
    12:49 p.m.
    HX424231
    1600 W. Juneway Terrace
    Rogers Park
    Gunshot
    Porch/hallway
    Michael Wright, 21
    > Read more
    9/10/14
    11:24 a.m.
    HX422932
    9300 S. Greenwood Ave.
    Burnside
    Gunshot
    Street
    Gabriel Meneses, 31
    > Read more
    > Follow-up coverage
    9/10/14
    1:26 a.m.
    HX422647
    5100 W. Waveland Ave.
    Portage Park
    Gunshot
    Street
    Terry Cook, 32
    > Read more
    9/8/14
    9:56 p.m.
    HX420605
    5400 S. Laflin St.
    New City
    Gunshot
    Street
    Malcolm Warnsby, 54
    > Read more
    9/8/14
    6:34 a.m.
    HX419954
    1100 N. Harding Ave.
    Humboldt Park
    Gunshot
    Street
    Juan Carlos Villalobos Avila, 36
    > Read more
    9/7/14
    4500 N. Kedzie Ave.
    Albany Park
    Gunshot
    Martell Robinson, 20
    > Read more
    9/6/14
    HX417607
    9700 S. Forest Ave.
    Roseland
    Gunshot
    Alley
    Edward Davis, 23
    > Read more
    9/6/14
    10:35 p.m.
    HX418468
    4500 S. Evans Ave.
    Grand Boulevard
    Gunshot
    Street
    Shaquille Holmes, 19
    > Read more
    9/6/14
    9:51 p.m.
    HX418402
    7200 S. Damen Ave.
    West Englewood
    Gunshot
    Street
    Nabil Batroukh, 64
    > Read more
    9/6/14
    4:30 a.m.
    HX417437
    1500 S. Lawndale Ave.
    North Lawndale
    Gunshot
    Street
    Christopher Guadarrama, 19
    > Read more
    9/6/14
    4:11 a.m.
    HX417473
    1300 W. Chicago Ave.
    West Town
    Gunshot
    Street
    Decari Spivey, 21
    > Read more
    9/5/14
    1600 W. Cortland St.
    Logan Square
    Gunshot
    Giovanni Galindo, 24
    > Read more
    > Follow-up coverage
    9/5/14
    5:11 p.m.
    HX416825
    6200 S. Kilpatrick Ave.
    Clearing
    Gunshot
    Basement
    Miran Cerimagic, 20
    > Read more
    > Follow-up coverage
    9/5/14
    HX417291
    5800 N. Mobile Ave.
    Norwood Park
    Stabbing
    Residence
    Desmond Gunawardana, 35
    > Read more
    > Follow-up coverage
    9/5/14
    HX417291
    5800 N. Mobile Ave.
    Norwood Park
    Stabbing
    Residence
    Raphael Watts, 53
    > Read more
    > Follow-up coverage
    9/4/14
    HX415817
    2600 W. North Ave.
    West Town
    Trauma
    Apartment
    Nigell Vazquez, 22
    > Read more
    > Follow-up coverage
    9/4/14
    9:29 p.m.
    HX415731
    8600 S. Ingleside Ave.
    Chatham
    Gunshot
    Porch/hallway
    Oscar Rodriguez, 22
    > Read more
    9/2/14
    3:15 p.m.
    HX410692
    4300 W. 25th Pl.
    South Lawndale
    Gunshot
    Street

  3. Thankfully, police officers in the U.K. are unarmed – apart from the specialist few. I’m glad. My eldest son is a police officer in a pretty rough area and with government cuts, there are now only half the number of officers than there were 5 years ago. Many are attending incidents alone. One or two have been killed. If that were my son therefore, perhaps I would think differently.
    Christine

    • Hi Garybule01: I doubt disarming police in the US would work in favor of anything much. And given the criminal justice system corruption and record of boxing up more lawbreakers than any place in the world, killing more than most anyone, as well, I doubt it would prove a boon to the growth industry. The criminal justice system is the only place anyone can make any serious money unless he’s already rich from oil, bankering, or outsourcing US jobs. Gracias, J

  4. Here in Maine anyone in a standoff that goes past shift change is a target. The AG’s desk is piled high with deadly force files. Who ever woulda thunk it? I’m pretty sure none of the dead citizens were black but I could be wrong.

    • Good seeing you elroyjones. I suppose I have to admit I’d have thunk it. My personal experience with cops hasn’t left me with any reason not to expect it would come to pass. Gracias, J

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